tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post7694861627439738705..comments2024-03-02T08:27:42.344+00:00Comments on Theological Scribbles: "With friends like this ..." (When defending God is wrong)Robin Parryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08856329564156757485noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-68355417819519637822010-11-23T19:07:29.616+00:002010-11-23T19:07:29.616+00:00That is said very well. I do think God is big enou...That is said very well. I do think God is big enough to take care of himself. We don't need to fight for him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-25812779959481626612010-11-17T15:13:10.471+00:002010-11-17T15:13:10.471+00:00By the way, the previous Anonymous comment is from...By the way, the previous Anonymous comment is from Dondi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-3607177368091473792010-11-17T15:12:09.836+00:002010-11-17T15:12:09.836+00:00On an off topic, but related note, I'm always ...On an off topic, but related note, I'm always perturbed whenever I see the Word of God taken out of context. For example, some in the Word of Faith movement often use this passage...<br /><br />"Thou shalt make thy prayer unto him, and he shall hear thee, and thou shalt pay thy vows. <br /><br />Thou shalt also decree a thing, and it shall be established unto thee: and the light shall shine upon thy ways." - Job 22:27-28 <br /><br />... to justify that Christians should make a 'vow' to the Lord (in other words give money to the televangelist)and that when they 'speak the word' or 'declare the word' it will be established. Sorta what the book 'The Secret' proposes.<br /><br />But what they don't realize is that these words in Job are spoken by Eliphaz the Temanite, one of Job's friends who have come to comfort him. When we get to the end of Job, we have God condemning Job's friends saying, <br /><br />"Who is this that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge?" - Job 38:2<br /><br />Then later, God actually disciplines Job's friends for thier faulty counsel,<br /><br />"And it was so, that after the LORD had spoken these words unto Job, the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite, My wrath is kindled against thee, and against thy two friends: for ye have not spoken of me the thing that is right, as my servant Job hath.<br /><br />Therefore take unto you now seven bullocks and seven rams, and go to my servant Job, and offer up for yourselves a burnt offering; and my servant Job shall pray for you: for him will I accept: lest I deal with you after your folly, in that ye have not spoken of me the thing which is right, like my servant Job. <br /><br />So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the Shuhite and Zophar the Naamathite went, and did according as the LORD commanded them: the LORD also accepted Job." - Job 42:7-9Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-61183284833507586362010-10-14T16:16:58.856+01:002010-10-14T16:16:58.856+01:00Hi Celestial,
Off of the top of my head, I don...Hi Celestial,<br /><br />Off of the top of my head, I don't see a common fallacy in all of those views. But I carefully studied each of those views and noticed that various apologists staunchly support all of those views while implying that those views are fundamentally important for biblical Christianity. Perhaps the insistence that each of those views are fundamentally important for biblical Christianity is some type of common fallacy, but each view has its own problems.James Goetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02412501436355228925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-14937382936649656962010-10-14T10:14:50.620+01:002010-10-14T10:14:50.620+01:00"default Augustinianism"?
are you refer..."default Augustinianism"?<br /><br />are you referring to the fine expression of it in the cartoon below?<br /><br />and what is wrong with the Augustinian attitude anyway ? ! :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-56626691542000837782010-10-14T08:51:41.771+01:002010-10-14T08:51:41.771+01:00I do think Christians can make some quite lame def...I do think Christians can make some quite lame defences of God, especially when it comes to the topic of evil and suffering, where evangelicals tend to lapse into a default Augustinianism.Matthew Celestinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02874430461346560520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-22858600951672450342010-10-14T08:50:07.921+01:002010-10-14T08:50:07.921+01:00Those are a quite varied set of issues, James.
Do...Those are a quite varied set of issues, James.<br /><br />Do you see some kind of common fallacy in them all?Matthew Celestinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02874430461346560520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-34557749471490508242010-10-14T03:07:44.593+01:002010-10-14T03:07:44.593+01:00Could this possibly apply to the typical evangelic...Could this possibly apply to the typical evangelical apologetic ministry that staunchly supports cessationism, the Chicago Statement on Inerrancy, anti-evolutionism, and anti- universalism?James Goetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02412501436355228925noreply@blogger.com