tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post463875625996383184..comments2024-03-02T08:27:42.344+00:00Comments on Theological Scribbles: On praying for the damnedRobin Parryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08856329564156757485noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-11111886517546364382014-10-24T01:47:27.290+01:002014-10-24T01:47:27.290+01:00Only "hell" that exists is between your ...Only "hell" that exists is between your hears and those thoughts are being burned up, gone forever in the lake of fire and brimstone who is Christ-He is The consuming fire. Christ is you head thoughts that we entertain are just that. Our conscious awareness of our Oneness with The One Is rest and realize. Thoughts come and go. They can be catalyst to realization but in themselves they are passing. So to "judge" someone on their thoughts or your conception of their state of being.especially when you cant see them, sounds like your being your own god. Iam not taking away the fact the couple was refreshed after prayer(consciously aware of goodness)however form that may be communicated. The benefits would appear to be for them.Since death doesnt exist only Christ He defeated death,hell and the grave. Enjoy your new existence Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-81336274940127402502014-10-11T06:36:35.199+01:002014-10-11T06:36:35.199+01:00Ah, that is excellent news, Robin. Thanks! I did...Ah, that is excellent news, Robin. Thanks! I did locate a copy of the more intensive book at a university library down the road, so might be tempting in the interim.Micahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-11999495594920069032014-10-10T09:11:30.683+01:002014-10-10T09:11:30.683+01:00Micah et al.,
It may interest you to know that Ra...Micah et al.,<br /><br />It may interest you to know that Ramelli is writing a short, pop version of her book.<br /><br />I am hopeful that it may even be out before the end of next year. (However, I cannot promise that.)<br /><br />RobinRobin Parryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08856329564156757485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-66475654290116566832014-10-10T06:26:56.249+01:002014-10-10T06:26:56.249+01:00Well said, Micah - thanks. Hi, Robin, BTW xWell said, Micah - thanks. Hi, Robin, BTW xChrysalishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02011407785733018944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-63006554821191411152014-10-10T06:23:39.883+01:002014-10-10T06:23:39.883+01:00Really want to read that Ramelli tome, as well. :)...Really want to read that Ramelli tome, as well. :) I imagine with the steep price for it, I'll probably have to find it in a library for now.Micahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-3127182590427162452014-10-10T05:38:00.682+01:002014-10-10T05:38:00.682+01:00Yeah -- have found myself doing precisely this wit...Yeah -- have found myself doing precisely this with increasing frequency, since becoming confident over the last few years in universalism and God's enduring Love for all, whether it's another celebrity or anyone that has passed away.<br /><br />Before that, my mainline evangelical sensibilities would have balked at the notion; but now it just seems strange and calloused to me how Christians fervently express love and concern for people while they're alive on earth, and then -- poof -- suddenly it's 'oh well, they're gone' and time to move on. If I, a mere creature can still love that person, wish for them to yet turn from non-Love and selfish ambition and become the person they were meant to be through Christ, certainly Love Himself doesn't just throw up His hands and move on?<br /><br />Yeah, now it seems strange NOT to pray for these people. :) Quite a shift in outlook.Micahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-56682750588508161122014-10-09T19:06:31.199+01:002014-10-09T19:06:31.199+01:00My concern with Andy Stanley's statements is t...My concern with Andy Stanley's statements is that he might find himself in company with the Psalmist and out of company with Christ. Jesus told us to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us in Matthew 5. I have never understood that to mean praying that God would return hurt for hurt on them. Suffering or hurt may indeed be the thing that gets them to repentance and toward that end I would pray, but that was not the point of Stanley's message or his desire for what he calls justice. When enduring torture on the cross, Jesus asked the Father to forgive his torturers, so I would think that would be our plea as well. I just want to make sure my prayers match those of God's Son.Eric McCartyhttp://ericmccarty.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-19057994476609549402014-10-09T16:19:43.738+01:002014-10-09T16:19:43.738+01:00Well, the Psalmist also expresses frustration in G...Well, the Psalmist also expresses frustration in God's delay of judgement, so in that, Andy Stanley is in good company. I also share that frustration but do not share the belief that adverse judgement need be eternal. And so I can pray, for example, for the military destruction of ISIS if the members will not repent, and still pray for their eventual restoration on the Other Side.Cedric M Kleinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-34072880057118158692014-10-09T13:55:21.203+01:002014-10-09T13:55:21.203+01:00Thanks so much for sharing that Al. Your comment s...Thanks so much for sharing that Al. Your comment serves to remind us that this is not a theoretical issue, but a deeply pastoral one.<br /><br />You are blessed that the Orthodox do not think praying for the dead is weird. It is us Protestants that struggle.<br /><br />But if we can get passed the "death is the point at which your destiny is fixed" idea—an idea not directly taught in Scripture—then perhaps we can create space for such practices.<br /><br />Blessings on you both and on AaronRobin Parryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08856329564156757485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-57693844445166725752014-10-09T10:28:50.783+01:002014-10-09T10:28:50.783+01:00Thanks Robin! I've shared this helpful summary...Thanks Robin! I've shared this helpful summary on FaceBook & the Forum.<br /><br />Sounds like you've overtaken me in reading her book (have you finished it?) but I don't mind spoilers as they'll inspire me to try to find more time to read it :-)Alex Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03012828252900281919noreply@blogger.com