tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post1274359927857711121..comments2024-03-02T08:27:42.344+00:00Comments on Theological Scribbles: The Life of a Galilean Shaman, by Pieter F. CraffertRobin Parryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08856329564156757485noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-118563578844351572019-09-16T01:13:12.796+01:002019-09-16T01:13:12.796+01:00Thanks for this, years later. I´m no orthodox Chr...Thanks for this, years later. I´m no orthodox Christian. On the other hand, I have sought the truth of God and been led to God through Jesus Christ as a Unitarian Universalist, although I have subordinated that affiliation to my own identity as an interfaith Christian. <br /><br />As such, I am no naturalist social scientist. In that view, I would contextualize Jesus in his larger context with a larger meaning. My attention involves a high degree of focus on the relationship between Jesus´ teachings about spiritual growth training, such as with "Seek first the Kingdom of God...."<br /><br />As a person who emerged out of the Jewish tradition, Jesus is clearly a hyper-shamanic kind of figure as Savior.Mark Collenburg Rego-Monteirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08202501568250271301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-26502754031229999762010-08-26T04:35:51.365+01:002010-08-26T04:35:51.365+01:00I'll also clarify caution in citing Craffert i...I'll also clarify caution in citing Craffert in an apologetics work. Nobody should quote mine Craffert to imply that he supports the historicity of Christ's miracles in the four Gospels. Craffert only supports the historicity of the perceptions of Christ in the four Gospels.<br /><br />I hope that I clarified myself.James Goetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02412501436355228925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-76166518853254083382010-08-25T16:00:43.828+01:002010-08-25T16:00:43.828+01:00I understand that using Craffert's view in apo...I understand that using Craffert's view in apologetics would be something along the lines of pitting one naturalistic view against another. But Craffert's naturalistic view at least says that the perceptions of Christ's miracles originated during the ministry of Christ instead of merely decades after his ministry. Likewise, if I correctly understand this, Craffert throws a wrench into other criticisms about the life of Christ. For example, "a historical figure really could have looked like this and that these perceptions of Jesus make perfect sense as originating during the time of his ministry rather than years later as mythical expansions of the real history."James Goetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02412501436355228925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-40137096803495842632010-08-25T10:33:07.885+01:002010-08-25T10:33:07.885+01:00Not sure whether or not it is useful apologeticall...Not sure whether or not it is useful apologetically. The author is not a Christian and some of his conclusions (esp. on the resurrection) and incompatible with a Christian view. So it requires handling with wisdom. <br /><br />The theological follow-up would be called "Jesus: A Shaman But More Than a Shaman." To really get Jesus one cannot see him just as a shaman figure. Jesus is, in the end, unique and unlike any other figure! However, seeing him in such ways is very helpful as far as it goes.<br /><br />I learned a lot.Robin Parryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08856329564156757485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2713231510890712652.post-39151103487211549142010-08-24T20:50:53.008+01:002010-08-24T20:50:53.008+01:00I suppose that I'll find this book valuable fo...I suppose that I'll find this book valuable for apologetics. However, I dread the thought of a follow up volume titled <i>The Life and Time of Jesus the Shaman.</i> :)James Goetzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02412501436355228925noreply@blogger.com